Kourtney Kardashian Barker opened up about her family’s sleeping arrangements during a recent podcast appearance.

Speaking on The Skinny Confidential: Him & Her podcast with Lauryn and Michael Bosstick, the mom of four explained that her sleep hours have been pretty variable recently because she’s been following her husband Travis Barker on tour, and because “we sleep with our 𝑏𝑎𝑏𝑦.”

Kardashian and Barker welcomed son Rocky 13 in November 2023, so he’s under a year old.

“As a mother, I like to do what feels natural and instinctual to me, and that’s—for me—what it is,” the Lemme founder added about the practice of co-sleeping. “And of course I also read all the benefits and hear all the benefits, and I mean it’s something that mammals have been doing for—since time existed.”

When Michael asked Kardashian if there’s a “cutoff” age for when she stops letting her kids sleep in her bed, she said, “Every person is different and every 𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘥 is different. My oldest son slept with me till he was seven, and just naturally wanted to—also part of it, like, at a certain time I would put him to bed in his room, and then he would come in my room. And then at seven, he just, he stopped. And he was like, I’m done with you, I sleep in my own room. And then my daughter slept with me pretty much till she was 11.”

Michael expressed concern that it would be more difficult to have 𝓈ℯ𝓍 with his wife if they were co-sleeping, Kardashian said, “You figure it out.”

She added, “I will say that both parents being aligned on [co-sleeping] is really important. Like, my husband loves it too.”

The TV star has also previously opened up about why co-sleeping works well for her family in an article for Poosh, her lifestyle website.

“I learned very quickly how important (and hard it could be) to get a good night’s sleep with a new𝐛𝐨𝐫𝐧 𝑏𝑎𝑏𝑦 in the house,” she wrote. “I realize that people have many different ways for getting their kids to sleep through the night, and I believe that if something works for your family, then that is what is most important. We all just need our sleep, right? In my house, I found that a co-sleeping strategy worked best.”

If you’re considering co-sleeping with your 𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘥, visit the Sleep Foundation website to learn more about the pros and cons of the practice, and how to co-sleep safely.